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[edit]Is The corresponding movement for increased democracy and liberalization stalled after the Tiananmen Square protests and massacre in 1989.
due for the lead? It only gets a passing mention in the body and seems a bit POV Kowal2701 (talk) 13:44, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's hard to say. I think it's plausible to characterize it (though I might not) as the most noteworthy single event from 1975 to present, but with a lead as broad as this one, who knows if that even suffices as a reason. Maybe I'm afraid of potential backlash from the class of readers that would be outraged at its removal (I can hear the dumb memes about "Wikipedia doesn't know what happened on 4 June 1989" already) but my impulse is to bulk up the representation in the body if the choice is between that and removal from the lead. Remsense ‥ 论 13:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe a note could explain the Chinese perspective on liberal democracy? Would solve NPOV and be quite educational. Quite wary of this sentence imposing western perspectives and values Kowal2701 (talk) 14:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's going to be difficult to write in a way that's fit to insert into the lead here. What springs to mind is to change for increased democracy and liberalization to toward liberal democracy, since that makes it a bit more clear that the concepts are related and not quite as simple as the government position at the time being anti-democratic bar none. Remsense ‥ 论 14:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that’s an improvement Kowal2701 (talk) 14:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- My one concern there is that there's quite a diversity of views within China regarding liberal democracy because, while the political compass of China is very different from the American equivalent, there's quite a diversity of political perspectives within China. Maoists are not likely to have much agreement with Dengists on the economy or labour relations, for instance. Simonm223 (talk) 14:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- The lead doesn't need to deal with that, it's really not the place for an explanation of Chinese or any other perspective on liberal democracy. CMD (talk) 14:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think that's going to be difficult to write in a way that's fit to insert into the lead here. What springs to mind is to change for increased democracy and liberalization to toward liberal democracy, since that makes it a bit more clear that the concepts are related and not quite as simple as the government position at the time being anti-democratic bar none. Remsense ‥ 论 14:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed the body could have a couple more sentences on this Kowal2701 (talk) 14:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe a note could explain the Chinese perspective on liberal democracy? Would solve NPOV and be quite educational. Quite wary of this sentence imposing western perspectives and values Kowal2701 (talk) 14:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Population density: 84th and not 83rd as well as 149 and not 145 ppl/km2 83.250.209.169 (talk) 19:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have a reliable source for the updated data we can cite? - Adolphus79 (talk) 22:09, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Just a bunch of AI glurge with no clear connection to the article. |
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78.3.92.198 (talk) 19:05, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
This does not appear to be a serious proposal for improvement, especially since it's lacking any reliable source. It appears to be one of twelve AI-created "analyses" that the IP address posted. The first one posted initially said "the Wikipedia-style article" before changing the wording to "this article". Space4TCatHerder🖖 20:16, 21 February 2025 (UTC) |
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